Hi Dennis,

I believe JP’s script you mentioned in the last paragraph is already out and there is a WSO on it for $27. Are you going to release it to the $1KaDay members for free?

Thanks,
Jael

I did buy into the program you mentioned. It did work, BUT:

Most of the campaigns were telling me the obvious — that a good ad is pulling. It’s also giving me the keywords, but nothing earth-shattering.

While it was telling me which ads are being run the longest, these ads (it seems) are mostly very expensive to duplicate in Adwords — costing nearly $1/click or so.

With several campaigns running right now, I have sold just a few ebooks with this method.

I cancelled my membership and asked for a refund of the current month. Received a nasty email and after some back-and-forth, got a prorated refund.

It seemed like a good idea at the time, but it’s baically a waste of money.

Bryan

Will you share JP’s URL? I found it doing some research and now can’t locate it.

Mary

Yes, JP is the person I’m talking about.

Dennis, are you talking about JP Schoeffel as the guy who is selling shares in a competitive intelligence program?

OK, I’ll admit I’m a member of one of the subscription services…

Matt’s post IMHO pretty much tells it like it is. Although I think that you get a significant advantage when using these tools, the tools are in no way some kind of push-button profit machine. I’ve identified several (assumedly) profitable campaigns myself, but you have to keep in mind that these campaigns are profitable…for the OTHER guy. For it to be profitable for yourself, you’ll have to do some work.

One thing not mentioned anywhere is this: if some ad shows up for a keyword 30/30 days, it just means that the corresponding CAMPAIGN is profitable, not necessarily that keyword. I have yet to see any ads with obvious keyword conversion tracking (ex. sid for CJ links), so how will I know which keywords are profitable? The marketer I’m spying on has to be tracking to the keyword level (which most marketers seem to NOT be doing) in order to know which keywords are converting. If he’s just throwing a bunch of keywords at Adwords and overall making money, you’d have to copy his campaign verbatim to also be profitable, which is not possible.

Bottom line: if you’re mainly doing Clickbank calculate refund rates for the products with a gravity of over 10. If refunds are lower than 10% the product should be promotable. If you’re doing CJ or other networks where you have no idea how well products convert, watching ads (with or without these tools) might give you an advantage.

I had read Matt’s post already when I saw yours too. I think they are both really good at pointing out that these fancy tools are never going to be the only way to go.

I actually started using the combination of Keyword Analyzer and Competition Dominator, which together cost me $199. With them, I have been able to test ebook topics that currently exist at Clickbank and that I have considered writing myself, and I’ve learned a lot. The tools will pay for themselves pretty fast. I see using them as a sort of Campaign Blasting in its own right. But copy the ads exactly? Nah, I’m not that nasty. Besides, I can probably improve on them!

Kara is real. Especially in business. What comes around, goes around.

The ‘net has always seemed to find a way to weed those out that want to make a quick buck without the work. This may work out the same way…